www.sinoabroad.com

Hey. Been talking to a guy from www.sinoabroad.com and he assures me there site is very real. I don't beleve him one bit. Does anyone know if this is a genuine site? I doubt it...


DOn't believe them, they are scammers!!!

www.wto336699.com

www.wto336699.com

AWARE OF THEM THEY ARE SCAMMERS!!!


Don't buy from them...

www.eur724.com SCAMMERS

Hi. I think theses are probably scam sites too. I was sent a message through Ebay offering to sell me goods at very cheap prices. Having seen scams before I searched for chinese scams on Ebay and came up with this forum. The site address is.
www.eur724.com
when you put their postal address in google it also comes up with the folowing sites which look extremely similar.
www.2008ebay.com
www.mall666.com
They can sell an New Aprilla 1000cc motorbike for under 2000EUR then something has to be dodgey.

AWARE OF THEM

www.eutue.com

hi i ordered from a website www.chineagora.com they are also a fake website i lost 500 euro.
Where do i have to call in china to get someting done about them?
Here is another fake one www.eutue.com watch out people.

Another Ebay Scammers

HI,here's another twist to the scam.They are getting people to sell the names of the sites on ebay.Then they are sending the LINKS for sites to the buyers with messages from the so called ebay seller stating they have bought goods and recieved goods the from these sites.
If you buy any of the sites named report the sellers to ebay.
www.useom.com is another name.

Another Scam Site

www.onlinemallcn.com they seem to follow with these sites
www.riancymall.com
www.wdtom.com
www.wto999998.com
www.togtrade.com
www.haiwoaini.com

AWARE OF THEM!! They are SCAMMERS!

www.dvele.com BIG SCAMMERS

Hello people, yes im sad to say i have been scamed too, i should have known or been more careful but i guess there are people out there with rotten hearts, i lost £336 if that makes anyone feel better of there loss i am happy for them, but i guess its a learning and wake up point for all our truthful bayers, but dont worry nothing goes to waste my be in this life but the hearafter you will be questioned for all your wrong doings, ok i dont wont to become all religious on you good people but that came from heart. everybody please beaware of WWW.dvele.com he/she can be very nice and sweet but dont fall into there trap.
thank you all so much for all your careful advise
PLEASE BE AWARE OF HOTMAIL ADDRESS:
WWW.dvele.com

Another Ebay Scammers

My ebay account has been hijacked and ebay have closed it down while they investigate, in my sent messages there are pages and pages of the following messages;

dear friend, we are an electron export company. we mainly sell mobile, lcd tv, gps, ps3, gps , ipod, digital camera, laptop and so on.

all what we sell come with 1 year official guarantee,and we sell at competitive price if you order in bulk.if you are interest,please contact us
website:www.dvele.com
Email:dvele-1@hotmail.com
Msn:dvele-3@hotmail.com

It is a scam!

PLEASE BE CAREFUL PEOPLE!

NAP TRADE ON LINE

ACTUAL MESSAGE VIA EBAY--QUESTION ON ITEM FOR SALE:

"Hi,this is Candy from NAP TRADE ON LINE,welcome to our website www.nap321.com !We are the whole salersalers of electronic products like digital camera,video,notebook,GPS system,DVD player,mobile phone,mp3,mp4,etc.Besides,we can provides you famous brand shoes,bags in a very challenge price.Whatever goods you buy you would get a new IPOD SHUFFLE for free!Join us,the good service and low price...What are you waiting for?
Welcome to our website:www.nap321.com
MSN: napnap321@hotmail.com
EMAIL: napnap321@hotmail.com
Tell:86-010-81159771"

Ebay Scammers-Spammers

I think I have had more of these not mentioned yet. I too felt it was too good to be true, and seems I'm right. Look out for these, they must be the same:

http://www.dwzhi.com
http://www.aeuto.com
http://www.nap321.com
http://www.dvele.com
http://www.jol-trade.com
http://www.go2buys.com

When selling an item on ebay, they ask you a 'question' about your icon only it's spamming you to buy from them

http://www.goldebayzone.com

http://www.goldebayzone.com

They are typical scammers.

I've lost over £19,000 on motor bikes i orders off www.emarket666.com and paypal wont even give me 1% of that money back . So upset and alot of money has been lost.

Don't Buy from them.

Nigerian Scam at Ebay

Last month many people from Ebay told me that Nigerians scammed them. Here is what Nigerian Scammers usually do:

1. Firstly, They bid on your item on Ebay
2. So, They say that they are in England but have a fiance or a daughter in NIGERIA and if possible to send the goods there.
3. Then they send you a FAKE paypal email saying that the funds have been collected by paypal and if you send the tracking order of the goods that you send, paypal will deposit the money to your account.
ANDIF YOU SEND THE GOODS YOU WILL NOT GET ANY MONEY


So look carefully.

Scammers Cooperation

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BEWARE of the following sites

www.riancymall.com
www.wdtom.com
www.wto999998.com
www.togtrade.com
www.haiwoaini.com

As they keep changing domains every few weeks it is hard to list all of the sites they operate with)

These Scammers from China pretend they are wholesalers, if you happen to send them money YOU WILL LOOSE IT.
They operate similar webpages and keep changing Domain names so they are hard to find if you do a search for scams.
They usualy approach unsuspecting buyers through ebay.
This is what they usualy say in their email.

My dear friend : Please allow us to disturb your precious time! We are the Chinese biggest foreign trade wholesaler. If you want to do business, we can offer you our most reasonable discount, making you get more profit . If you have time, please visit our website,Please relate with us, we will give you a satisfying answer .Our Web address : www.wdtom.com Our MSN: wdtom@hotmail.com Our mail:wdtom@hotmail.com such as digital cameras, mobile,LCD TV, Laptops Notebooks, Digital Video,Mp4,GPS,and so on

BECAREFUL They are SCAMMERS!!

I have lost 350 euro and im trying to save someone else loosing their money.


These scumbags should be stopped.........

China's college graduate glut

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By Chi-Chu Tschang
June 5, 2007

With China's economy still at high speed and corporate profits and wages on the upswing, this should be a golden time to be a newly minted university graduate. After all, multinational corporations have been complaining that they can't find enough qualified people to hire. Factories along the coastal regions have been hit by a shortage of migrant workers.

But guess what? For college seniors graduating this spring, finding a job has been a real struggle. There are simply too many of them to absorb even for a growing economy like China. Just ask Yang Hanning, who will be graduating with a degree in computer science from Tianjin University of Commerce in July. He has sent out dozens of résumés and been called back for an interview for fewer than 10 companies. He has yet to receive a job offer.

"All of the jobs I've applied for are looking for people with experience. They give us recent graduates the cold shoulder," Yang, 23, laments. In fact only three out of his 22 classmates in the computer science department have received job offers so far, and none of the jobs has anything to do with their major.

Cutthroat job market

In 1977, the first year that Chinese university enrollment resumed after the trauma of the Cultural Revolution, only 4.7% of applicants, or 270,000 students, were accepted into college; a carefully managed trickle. And those lucky kids generally coasted into a stable job in a government ministry or state-owned enterprise. It was the fabled era of the "iron rice bowl" in which college grads received subsidized housing and rock-solid job security.

China's evolution since then into a more market-driven economy has also meant a far more cutthroat job market. This spring, 4.95 million seniors will graduate from colleges across China, nearly five times as many college graduates than China produced seven years ago.

"There are a lot of people in China. Everybody has a college degree and they're all competing for that one opening," said Liu Chao, 21, who will be graduating in July with a degree in computer science from Beijing Information Technology College. The joke floating around college Internet chat rooms is that college students nowadays are like cabbages: There's an abundant supply of them and their price never goes up.

Flood of unemployed

The reason universities are churning out record numbers of graduates every year is rooted in the Chinese government's decision to expand university enrollment starting in 1999. With the Chinese economy slowing during the Asian financial crisis, Asian Development Bank economist Tang Min in 1998 proposed expanding university enrollment to boost domestic consumption. China was closing down state-owned enterprises and laying off millions of workers at the time, so it seemed like a good idea to send some of the 3 million high school graduates in 1999 to college and delay their entry into the job market.

Today it is unclear exactly how many recent college graduates are unable to find a job. Since 2001, the official figures from the Ministry of Labor and Social Security (MOLSS) claim that roughly 30% of college seniors have not signed an employment contract by the time they receive their diplomas in July, which is a typical number for the U.S. and other developed nations. In China, however, that would mean nearly 1.5 million recent graduates will be flooding the job market this summer.

"The MOLSS tabulates the unemployment figures for blue collar workers and doesn't really care about white collar unemployment. College graduates are white collar. The MOLSS doesn't know how many of them are unemployed and doesn't care," said Yao Yuqun, professor at Renmin University's School of Labor Relations and Human Resources. He added that unemployed college graduates are not counted in China's official 4.1% unemployment rate.

Spoiled only children?

However there is anecdotal evidence to suggest that it is a growing problem that has attracted the government's attention. Last November, a graduate student from the prestigious Tsinghua University committed suicide because he was unable to find work. Starting last year, college graduates who have been unable to find work by Sept. 1 have been allowed to register as unemployed with their local government offices and receive unemployment benefits.

Older Chinese complain that the current crop of college graduates born in the 1980s under the one-child policy have been coddled by their parents. Unlike their parents who dutifully went to work wherever the state assigned them, this generation of Chinese are pickier about where they live and where they work.

"Some college graduates will only work if they find a good job. If it's a regular job, they won't do it," noted Sun Baohong, head of the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences' Institute of Adolescents.

Please stay home

College graduates expect to land nice white collar jobs after graduation. The reality is that China's economic growth is still largely driven by factories needing cheap, low-skilled workers churning out products for export. Hence, chief executives complain that they receive a mountain of résumés for administrative positions but are having a hard time filling openings on the plant floor.

Most college graduates have also shunned the countryside and flocked to China's major metropolitan areas, such as Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen, to find jobs. The government has been trying to entice college graduates to spend a year or two working in rural areas after graduation by giving them bonus points if they apply to graduate school later. But young Chinese say that one reason they prefer to go to major cities to find work is because they feel the playing field is more level there, unlike in the countryside where "guanxi" or connections are needed to find jobs.

Companies say that China's educational system, which stresses rote memorization, turns out college graduates who can perform repetitive tasks efficiently but cannot think "out of the box" to attack problems creatively. Often college graduates simply can't do jobs they are hired for without further post-graduate training.

Experience worth the price

A European startup working on applying artificial intelligence to business cases moved its research and development operations to Beijing last year to take advantage of the cheap cost of Chinese software programmers and found this out the hard way. It originally posted job advertisements on the Internet and hired seven recent college graduates only to discover that some of the programmers were unable to write simple computer programs.

In February the company decided to start over from scratch. This time it hired a headhunter to find programmers with 5 to 10 years of experience. Even though it costs up to 10 times more to hire experienced programmers, as opposed to hiring fresh college graduates, the decision turned out to be worth it. "Of course the salary is different but you don't have redo their work and the work is higher quality. They would probably be actually cheaper than hiring fresh college graduates," said Nicolas Piguet, co-founder and R&D manager of the startup.

To be sure, many recent college graduates are aware of their shortcomings. They cite training and room for career advancement as one of the main factors when choosing where to work. "A lot of companies neglect career training. I don't get the feeling that I would learn a lot at these companies," said Jia Zhanjie, 24, who will be graduating with a degree in chemistry from Beijing Normal University. Even though he already has a job offer, he was still trolling job fairs on the weekends to see if he could find something better.

Limiting number of students

Not surprisingly, more and more college students are going to graduate school before entering the workforce. "After I return with my master's degree, it'll be easier to find work," said Luo Binhan, 23, who graduated with a degree in insurance from Wuhan University in 2005 and has taken the past year off to apply to graduate school overseas. However in the last couple of years Chinese students with graduate degrees have also found it harder to find work.

The Chinese government has started to take steps to improve the quality of education. The central government will invest 10 billion yuan ($1.3 billion) between 2006 to 2010 in vocational and technical schools to create more skilled workers. With factories facing shortages of skilled laborers, 95.6% of vocational school graduates had a job offer by the time they graduated last year.

Last year, the Ministry of Education also began to limit the number of incoming freshmen universities could accept to no more than 5% more than the year before. The rapid expansion of college enrollment had led to a shortage of qualified professors, leading to a drop in the standards. Renmin University's Professor Yao said, "A lot of people have been complaining to the Ministry of Education that their children can't find jobs. Expanding university enrollment has lost its attractiveness."

Due Diligence For Chinese Joint Ventures

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Due diligence is an absolute must if you plan to team up with a Chinese partner. It’s a jungle out there, so be wary. This is no place to cut expenses or rush through things because a half-done job may cost you twice as much time and money later. Due diligence is not a particularly prevalent practice among the Chinese and they may have trouble understanding why you are “making things difficult”. If your prospective partner refuses to cooperate, don’t be afraid to walk away.

There are three main types of due diligence that you need to concern yourself with – financial, legal, and environmental. Keep in mind that these three inquiries often overlap.

Financial Due Diligence

Many Chinese enterprises (it is said) have three sets of financial records: one for the
owners, one for the tax authorities, and one for foreign investors. Accordingly, determining the value of an enterprise based on its financial records can be difficult. It might be necessary to carry out an independent assessment of the enterprise’s reputation, connections, and key employees.

Key pitfalls to watch out for are:

Double-dealing employees – it is not at all uncommon in China for senior management to have their own businesses that directly compete with their employer, and for these executives to use their employer’s confidential information to further their own private interests.

Corrupt relationships with Chinese government officials – this presents the risk of civil liability or prosecution, not only by the Chinese authorities should things take a turn for the worse, but also by the US authorities if you happen to be American or otherwise subject to the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (some other nations have equivalent legislation; check your home jurisdiction if you are unsure).

Intellectual property piracy – rampant in China.

Legal due diligence

Legal due diligence focuses on a variety of issues including contract rights, corporate authority, regulatory compliance, ownership of assets, and liabilities and claims against the target company. Issues that often arise include:

Scope of business issues – At the minimum, you should authenticate and inspect an original of the enterprise’s business license (the scope of business is listed thereon).

Contracts – whether contractual arrangements are adequately documented (or documented at all).

Ownership of buildings and Land Use Rights – Check to make sure all buildings are owned outright and all land is “granted” rather than merely “allocated”.

Intellectual property – make sure that trademarks, etc. used by the target company are either owned by it or licensed to it.

Constitutional documents such as Articles of Association – make sure that they are up to date (properly amended to reflect the company’s current situation).

Construction permits and approvals – these should be examined not only for construction in progress, but also for existing structures

Labor disputes – determine whether there are any outstanding disputes, and the level of employee morale.

Debts and encumbrances – make sure that these are adequately documented and not excessive.

Environmental Due Diligence

In a nutshell, you need to know whether your partner’s site environment or your FIE’s proposed site environment has been contaminated (contamination of your Chinese partner’s site could affect its financial stability even if it is not used for the FIE).

www.market666.com

I received the letter from the mr. Wayne McMahon so that's what he wrote to me:

I had problems with this Company www.market666.com and paid for goods via western union.Cheap prices but scammers.
You can chk this out and add to list if you want.
As soon as the money was picked up no more contact from them and no replys by email.



BE CAREFULL THEY ARE SCAMMERS!!!

www.nikecraft.com

www.nikecraft.com


They are typical SCAMMERS!!! Don't Buy from THEM!!!

Dangerous Chinese "Sellers"

One eBayer has already written a note about these but last night there was a spate of these crooks on eBay, mainly selling coins, totalling more than 100 items.

Experienced buyers often recognise these crooks but not always and the crooks are becoming more devious; so I have decided to write this guide to help you recognise these crooks and avoid financial loss.

Their current strategy is to create about 10 fake accounts, sell to these accounts and then create the illusion of a positive rating of 10. As far as payment is concerned, they used to use the Western Union trick - you can never get your money back - NEVER use Western Union. However, they are now using PayPal who will take no action to close these accounts - I know because I phoned them and they were simply not interested. So, you may or may not be covered by PayPal.

You should next look closely at what they have supposedly sold and then ask yourself whether it makes any sense that they are now selling a plethora of rare coins.

These listings are usually for one day only - a practice that a real seller would not use as it would limit the number of bids likely to be received. These crooks use this because eBay Safe Harbor is so hopelessly slow that the crooks do stand a real chance of succeeding with their theft.

Many of these listings also offer a ludicrously cheap Buy It Now option - again, you have to ask yourself "would a real seller need to do this?"

If bidding has got under way - often these crooks are so incompetent that the listing is laughable and is ignored by everyone - look at who is bidding and look at their track record from their feedback. Even knowledgeable people can get caught but generally, you will notice that the regular bidders are not bidding for these offers.

Sometimes these crooks manage to match their incompetence with their enthusiasm and you will see them offering the same rare item in several different listings!

Often a search for the item on eBay will also find you the original listing that was stolen by these crooks and you will be able to see from the photographs that these have been stolen.

If you are suspicious, you can always try to contact one of their so-called previous buyers and another technique is to ask for a new picture of the item. A real seller will invariably oblige.

As of today, 11 July 2006, the crooks are back and this time, they are using a zero rating instead of constructing 10 or so fake positives. My opinion now is that you should not buy coins from ANYONE in China who is not yet established and is showing a low or zero rating - there is almost certainly nothing there for you.

If you do discover this activity please help others as I do by telling them of the fraud, before they part with their money and also pester eBay to get them to remove the fake seller.

Summary and Conclusions

1. Look at the seller's payment procedures


2. Look at the seller's feedback and ask yourself whether it makes sense.


3. Look at what they have bought and sold - can they possibly have the items they are offering for sale? If they have more than one of a rare item, they are almost certainly crooked


4. Ignore one-day listings


5. Ignore offers with unnecessary and cheap Buy It Now options


6. Look at the background of the bidders. As a general rule the experienced ones can spot these frauds


7. Do a search for the item on eBay - they are often still available for sale from the real seller


8. Contact previous buyers to check out the seller


9. Ask the seller for new pictures of the item or items for sale


10. Simply, do not buy from new or very low rated Chinese sellers


11. Help other eBayers by reporting the fraud to eBay and by emailing the unwary bidders

Finally, you can get bargains on eBay but ask yourself whether the bargain makes any sense to you before you part with your money.

Internet SCAMMERS!!

Recently i got a few emails from some guy i never knew (An email address id never seen before) Saying all this crap about how he wants to do business with me because he works in a bank and some guy died and he wants me to inherit 23 million dollars. Well heres the emails anyway (Quite a lengthy read.)

Email 1:

Ref: Seeking for your permission for a business discussion


Dear Sir,

This contact is being made to you out of the increase need. Ostensibly, this may some what aroused some kind of surprise and suspicion both by its source, method or channel of transmission. It may also, be seen unjustifiable based on rules of certain values, but certain concerns and considerations, and has increased quite immeasurably and contemptuously in me, hence my approach.

Your contact details was given to me by a tourist from your country who was here In South Africa on holidays with his family, though I did not disclose the nature of business I am about to discuss with you to him, based on the fact that the discussion is confidential. With the little knowledge of who I am, I wish you could permit me to discus/disclose to you a very important lucrative business offer.

I am Dr Phil Luis Wright (K.S.J), an accountant by profession; I was born in the year of the lord on 26th June 1957 in Mpumalanga in western province Republic of South Africa. Happily married with three children. I am a top executive director with one of the world biggest financial firm here in South Africa. Kindly inform me your private phone and fax number where I can reach you with the details of the deal.

Expecting your urgent response. Hoping that you will grant me the opportunity to discuss with you. I can be reached through the above phone and fax or email only.

Thanks and remain bless

Best regards

Dr. Phil Luis Wright.

I asked him how he got my email address. He didnt answer my question but then sent me this email.

Email 2:

Dear Sir,

Thanks for your reply and granting the permission to
discuss my proposal with you. I am the African Regional
manager of HSBC Private Banking Sector, 322 Oxford Drive,
Sandton-Johannesburg, South Africa. What I wish to relate
to you will smack of unethical practice but I want you to
understand something. On June 6, 2003, Mr. Dudley Roy a
citizen of Netherlands and also an Oil merchant came to our
Bank to engage in business Discussions with our private
banking Division. He told us that he had a financial
portfolio of Twenty Three Million Seven Hundred Thousand
United States Dollars ($23.7M), which he wished to have us
turn over (invest) on his behalf. Based on the investment,
we spun the money around which with accrued profit and
interest Stood at over Twenty Seven Million Five Hundred
Thousand United States Dollars ($27.5M). In December 10th
2004, he asked that the money be Liquidated because he
needed to purchase an Oil block requiring cash Payments
from the royal family in Riyadh, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

He directed that we should liquidate the funds and Have it
deposited with a Security firm in Cape Town, South Africa
for onward delivery to him in Saudi Arabia. We informed him
that our Bank would Have to make special arrangements to
have this done and in order not to Circumvent due process;
the bank would have to make a 9.5 % deduction from The
funds to cater for banking and statutory charges.

He complained about the charges but later came around when
I explained to him the complexities of the task he was
asking of us. I undertook all the processes and made sure I
followed his precise Instructions to the letter and had the
Funds deposited at the Cape town based Security Consultancy
firm, Mr. Dudley Roy told me he wanted the money there in
anticipation of his arrival from Beirut later that week.
This was the last communication we had, this transpired
around 11th February 2005, we got a call from the security
firm informing us about The inactivity of that particular
portfolios. This was an astounding position as far as I am
concerned; given the fact that I managed the private
banking sector I was the only one Who knew about the
deposit at Cape Town based Security Firm and I could not
understand Why Mr. Dudley had not come forward to claim his
deposit.

I made futile efforts to locate Mr. Dudley no success, one
weeks later, information started to trickle in, apparently
Mr. Dudley Roy died along with the ex prime minister of
Lebanese (Mr. Rafiki Hariri), A person who suited his
description was declared dead in Beirut bomb blast that
kill the ex prime minister on 16th of February 2005. The
Security firm immediately launched an investigation into
possible Surviving next of kin to alert about the situation
and also to come forward to claim his estate.

My proposal: Myself and the director of the security firm
will place you in a position to inherit the deposit, we
prepare the legal documents binding as the relation
attached it the file to Mr. Dudley. I assure you that we
could have the deposit released to you within a few days. I
wish to link up some one with strong characters who I can
trust and enter into an understanding with and some one
with good knowledge of investment to administer funds into
business. This should be done under none-disclosure and
none circumvention framework. Upon your confirmation to
assume the next of kin, I will detail you the terms and
procedure. I am aware of the consequences of this proposal.
Please, if I can have your confidence, trust and
understanding in this matter, I will be glad to have you
contact me immediately. This is not a case of money
laundering of illicit funds. I ask that you do not be
vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to
you, delete this message.

Await your urgent confirmation.


Regards
Dr. Phil L Wright

I then sent him another email asking why he chose me and why he didnt answer my last question, he then sent me a 3rd email.

Email 3:

Dear Sir,

Thanks for your mail and your interest in my proposal.
How are you today? Hope all is well ok with you over there.
I believed that you do understand my explanation regarding
this transaction. I have investigated all the areas
regarding this deal and perfected every internal
arrangement to see that the deal will
Be a very successfully. Due to my position in the Bank I
don?t want to disclose this transaction with anybody here
in South Africa.

Before proceeding, I would like to re-assure you of the
risk-free of this transaction, this transaction have been
carefully drafted in such a way that it will not harm both
of us in any way or destroy our personality during and
after. All I need from you is 100% assurance that you will
not disappoint us after receiving the money into your bank
account.

This money does not originate from any form of Drug or
Terrorist activities and it will not attract such or any
questions from any authority when transferred into your
Bank account, all the documents will be arranged perfectly
by us down here as already
been worked it out already.

Regarding to the details of the transaction, I could only
details you what will be the procedure on the processing of
the transaction upon confirming the following below
information from you. You are advice to answer the
under-listed details to me immediately you receive this
message.

(1) Your full name and address

(2) Your Company's name, address and your position if any

(3) Your direct telephone and fax numbers

(4) Your Country of Origin.

(5) Your Age, status

(6) Investments ideas you will recommend for the funds.

As soon as I receive the above details from you I will
forward to you the full procedure of the transaction and
every other thing that is involved including the sharing
terms. Call me upon receipt of this mail.

I am waiting for your urgent response.

Best regards


Dr. Phil Wright

At this point i knew it was deffinatly a scam because he started asking for my bank details and phone number etc. I then asked him for a name of ther person who gave him my email addres and he replyed with this.

Email 4:

Dear Sir,

I do not wish to waste your time or my own time, if you are
not comfortable in working with me kindly let me know so
that i can look for another person,

You may be thinking that what i related to you may be a
kind of joke, it is not and i will not be a something you
regret.

Phill

I then told him to get fucked and to learn to scam better.

Has this ever happened to anyone else? I bet that probably would of fooled me like 2 years ago when i 1st got my computer. Its shocking to know theres guys like this doing shit like this all the time...

Renzo Electronic Co., Ltd

Renzo Electronic Co., Ltd.Jl. Jend. Sudirman 453B
Yogyakarta 55223 D.I.Y   
Indonesia
Tel : 62-274-7836701 , Fax : 62-274-7836702 
http://www.renzotronic.com/

The first thing I checked was their alleged company's address: Jl.
Jend. Sudirman 453B, Yogyakarta 55223. This address is fake. First,
because the correct post code for all houses in that street with
numbers 38 and higher is 55224, not 55223. Second, because there is no
house number 453B in the Jenderal Sudriman Street in Yogyakarta. The
numbers in that street don't go further than to the 80s. A company
that provides a fake address on their website can't be trusted.

And there is more: They registered their Web domain using the same
fake address (completely omitting the post code), and with an equally
fake telephone number: +001.81332777258. The +001 would be the country
code of the USA or Canada. That is, of course, more than unlikely for
an Indonesian company. And the number behind the country code does not
even comply with North American telephone number schemes, it has one
digit too much.

Furthermore, the domain was registered only on 24 June 2006, and will
already expire on 24 June 2007, after just one year. Since this
"company" claims to exist since 2004, it would mean that they waited
for 2 years before they registered their domain, which is very hard to
believe. Again, this is one of the typical short-lived, "disposable"
domains scammers usually register for their fraudulent activities.

By the way, "Co. Ltd." is not a valid Indonesian legal form of a
company. It was certainly chosen to impress potential victims from
English-speaking countries, who are obviously the target group for
this scam.

I recommend not to trust Renzo Electronic and not to do any business with them.