How Indonesian scammers are working!

There are thousands of (Indonesian) companies listed at alibaba.com. How many of them are legal businesses and how many is scam?

I can say that most of the businesses are decent and honest companies who are using alibaba to create customer contacts. So how is it possible that roughly 95% of the registries is scam?

The 95% are all leading to the Indonesian Internet Mafia. Well organized crime with connections to banking, military and (local) government officials.

How it works;

An Indonesian programmer earns 2 dollar per day. A group of programmers (100+) are working round the clock, setting-up websites, posting trade-leads etc. Everything is leading to the middle-man who also works at one of the thousands internet cafe's. This guy is answering your email or (if there is) phone.

Let say every programmer post 3 leads per day 100*3*365 = > 100.000 per year. 1% gets response and 1% of those who responding pay an average from $1000.= Income for the syndicate >$10,000 per day. A profitable business without any risk.

What they after is your money especial the small amounts. Who is going to Indonesia to recover $2000.=? Would you?

But what if you live around the corner? At least I will have a look before I buy I would say. Also for Criminals counts the same rule "good business is avoiding unnecessary risk. Why replying to someone who is going to check before he buys? Waste of time and risky. It's better to concentrate to people who are far away.

So from now on everyone who wants to know if a company is OK, send your enquiry to me. I will contact them on your behalf as East Java Quality Control. No answer means SCAM.

Another scammed email

When you receive such a letter, be sure they are scammers. Avoid them!!!

HELLO!
970eur is 1253usd
240eur is 310usd!
we are all businessman, we need to be credit and honest, we need more
clients and larger market, we need your support, we can not lose our market
just for your order, I believe, if you were me, you will not do so.
Right?if you do not receive your item, you can call the bank, and they will
frozen our account. yes, of course, i am serious, i hope you are serious
too. doing business need honesty and credit, we wil not lose our honesty
and our credit just because yourself. I think, you were me,you will not
doEMS is insured air express which can offer you tracking number, delivery
to world wide usually takes about 3-5 days. I know that you may not trust
me. i can prove i am honest. I can give you some our tracking numbers for
our other customers before. you can check these numbers here:
http://www.ems.com.cn/ems/English/index.jsp And then you will confirm our
honesty.
(EA824274955CN22nd August—?,EA824274964CN 22nd August-?,EA824937685CN
31rdJuly-France,EA823158732CN 21th August-Austrilia, EA824275001CN 22th
August-England, EA824274981CN 22th August-?)
EA783660498CN EA783660507CN EA783660250CN EA783660263CN
EA783660095CN EA783660232CN EA783660087CN EA783660498CN
EA783660507CN EA783660453CN Italy EA767945016CN
Sorry, we do not accept paypal, paypal takes too much time for me
to withdraw your money. in fact ,paypal is perfect for both sides if i
were in europe or in US. if you use paypal in europe or the USA,
you only need to wait about 3 working days to withdraw the money ,but if i
use paypal in China, i need to wait at least 40 days
to withdraw the moeny, you can call or email paypal to confirm this.paypal
is really very slow in China.

Don't even talk with them.

Another Ebay Scammers

HI,here's another twist to the scam.They are getting people to sell the names of the sites on ebay.Then they are sending the LINKS for sites to the buyers with messages from the so called ebay seller stating they have bought goods and recieved goods the from these sites.
If you buy any of the sites named report the sellers to ebay.
www.useom.com is another name.

Nigerian Scam at Ebay

Last month many people from Ebay told me that Nigerians scammed them. Here is what Nigerian Scammers usually do:

1. Firstly, They bid on your item on Ebay
2. So, They say that they are in England but have a fiance or a daughter in NIGERIA and if possible to send the goods there.
3. Then they send you a FAKE paypal email saying that the funds have been collected by paypal and if you send the tracking order of the goods that you send, paypal will deposit the money to your account.
ANDIF YOU SEND THE GOODS YOU WILL NOT GET ANY MONEY


So look carefully.

Dangerous Chinese "Sellers"

One eBayer has already written a note about these but last night there was a spate of these crooks on eBay, mainly selling coins, totalling more than 100 items.

Experienced buyers often recognise these crooks but not always and the crooks are becoming more devious; so I have decided to write this guide to help you recognise these crooks and avoid financial loss.

Their current strategy is to create about 10 fake accounts, sell to these accounts and then create the illusion of a positive rating of 10. As far as payment is concerned, they used to use the Western Union trick - you can never get your money back - NEVER use Western Union. However, they are now using PayPal who will take no action to close these accounts - I know because I phoned them and they were simply not interested. So, you may or may not be covered by PayPal.

You should next look closely at what they have supposedly sold and then ask yourself whether it makes any sense that they are now selling a plethora of rare coins.

These listings are usually for one day only - a practice that a real seller would not use as it would limit the number of bids likely to be received. These crooks use this because eBay Safe Harbor is so hopelessly slow that the crooks do stand a real chance of succeeding with their theft.

Many of these listings also offer a ludicrously cheap Buy It Now option - again, you have to ask yourself "would a real seller need to do this?"

If bidding has got under way - often these crooks are so incompetent that the listing is laughable and is ignored by everyone - look at who is bidding and look at their track record from their feedback. Even knowledgeable people can get caught but generally, you will notice that the regular bidders are not bidding for these offers.

Sometimes these crooks manage to match their incompetence with their enthusiasm and you will see them offering the same rare item in several different listings!

Often a search for the item on eBay will also find you the original listing that was stolen by these crooks and you will be able to see from the photographs that these have been stolen.

If you are suspicious, you can always try to contact one of their so-called previous buyers and another technique is to ask for a new picture of the item. A real seller will invariably oblige.

As of today, 11 July 2006, the crooks are back and this time, they are using a zero rating instead of constructing 10 or so fake positives. My opinion now is that you should not buy coins from ANYONE in China who is not yet established and is showing a low or zero rating - there is almost certainly nothing there for you.

If you do discover this activity please help others as I do by telling them of the fraud, before they part with their money and also pester eBay to get them to remove the fake seller.

Summary and Conclusions

1. Look at the seller's payment procedures


2. Look at the seller's feedback and ask yourself whether it makes sense.


3. Look at what they have bought and sold - can they possibly have the items they are offering for sale? If they have more than one of a rare item, they are almost certainly crooked


4. Ignore one-day listings


5. Ignore offers with unnecessary and cheap Buy It Now options


6. Look at the background of the bidders. As a general rule the experienced ones can spot these frauds


7. Do a search for the item on eBay - they are often still available for sale from the real seller


8. Contact previous buyers to check out the seller


9. Ask the seller for new pictures of the item or items for sale


10. Simply, do not buy from new or very low rated Chinese sellers


11. Help other eBayers by reporting the fraud to eBay and by emailing the unwary bidders

Finally, you can get bargains on eBay but ask yourself whether the bargain makes any sense to you before you part with your money.

Internet SCAMMERS!!

Recently i got a few emails from some guy i never knew (An email address id never seen before) Saying all this crap about how he wants to do business with me because he works in a bank and some guy died and he wants me to inherit 23 million dollars. Well heres the emails anyway (Quite a lengthy read.)

Email 1:

Ref: Seeking for your permission for a business discussion


Dear Sir,

This contact is being made to you out of the increase need. Ostensibly, this may some what aroused some kind of surprise and suspicion both by its source, method or channel of transmission. It may also, be seen unjustifiable based on rules of certain values, but certain concerns and considerations, and has increased quite immeasurably and contemptuously in me, hence my approach.

Your contact details was given to me by a tourist from your country who was here In South Africa on holidays with his family, though I did not disclose the nature of business I am about to discuss with you to him, based on the fact that the discussion is confidential. With the little knowledge of who I am, I wish you could permit me to discus/disclose to you a very important lucrative business offer.

I am Dr Phil Luis Wright (K.S.J), an accountant by profession; I was born in the year of the lord on 26th June 1957 in Mpumalanga in western province Republic of South Africa. Happily married with three children. I am a top executive director with one of the world biggest financial firm here in South Africa. Kindly inform me your private phone and fax number where I can reach you with the details of the deal.

Expecting your urgent response. Hoping that you will grant me the opportunity to discuss with you. I can be reached through the above phone and fax or email only.

Thanks and remain bless

Best regards

Dr. Phil Luis Wright.

I asked him how he got my email address. He didnt answer my question but then sent me this email.

Email 2:

Dear Sir,

Thanks for your reply and granting the permission to
discuss my proposal with you. I am the African Regional
manager of HSBC Private Banking Sector, 322 Oxford Drive,
Sandton-Johannesburg, South Africa. What I wish to relate
to you will smack of unethical practice but I want you to
understand something. On June 6, 2003, Mr. Dudley Roy a
citizen of Netherlands and also an Oil merchant came to our
Bank to engage in business Discussions with our private
banking Division. He told us that he had a financial
portfolio of Twenty Three Million Seven Hundred Thousand
United States Dollars ($23.7M), which he wished to have us
turn over (invest) on his behalf. Based on the investment,
we spun the money around which with accrued profit and
interest Stood at over Twenty Seven Million Five Hundred
Thousand United States Dollars ($27.5M). In December 10th
2004, he asked that the money be Liquidated because he
needed to purchase an Oil block requiring cash Payments
from the royal family in Riyadh, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

He directed that we should liquidate the funds and Have it
deposited with a Security firm in Cape Town, South Africa
for onward delivery to him in Saudi Arabia. We informed him
that our Bank would Have to make special arrangements to
have this done and in order not to Circumvent due process;
the bank would have to make a 9.5 % deduction from The
funds to cater for banking and statutory charges.

He complained about the charges but later came around when
I explained to him the complexities of the task he was
asking of us. I undertook all the processes and made sure I
followed his precise Instructions to the letter and had the
Funds deposited at the Cape town based Security Consultancy
firm, Mr. Dudley Roy told me he wanted the money there in
anticipation of his arrival from Beirut later that week.
This was the last communication we had, this transpired
around 11th February 2005, we got a call from the security
firm informing us about The inactivity of that particular
portfolios. This was an astounding position as far as I am
concerned; given the fact that I managed the private
banking sector I was the only one Who knew about the
deposit at Cape Town based Security Firm and I could not
understand Why Mr. Dudley had not come forward to claim his
deposit.

I made futile efforts to locate Mr. Dudley no success, one
weeks later, information started to trickle in, apparently
Mr. Dudley Roy died along with the ex prime minister of
Lebanese (Mr. Rafiki Hariri), A person who suited his
description was declared dead in Beirut bomb blast that
kill the ex prime minister on 16th of February 2005. The
Security firm immediately launched an investigation into
possible Surviving next of kin to alert about the situation
and also to come forward to claim his estate.

My proposal: Myself and the director of the security firm
will place you in a position to inherit the deposit, we
prepare the legal documents binding as the relation
attached it the file to Mr. Dudley. I assure you that we
could have the deposit released to you within a few days. I
wish to link up some one with strong characters who I can
trust and enter into an understanding with and some one
with good knowledge of investment to administer funds into
business. This should be done under none-disclosure and
none circumvention framework. Upon your confirmation to
assume the next of kin, I will detail you the terms and
procedure. I am aware of the consequences of this proposal.
Please, if I can have your confidence, trust and
understanding in this matter, I will be glad to have you
contact me immediately. This is not a case of money
laundering of illicit funds. I ask that you do not be
vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to
you, delete this message.

Await your urgent confirmation.


Regards
Dr. Phil L Wright

I then sent him another email asking why he chose me and why he didnt answer my last question, he then sent me a 3rd email.

Email 3:

Dear Sir,

Thanks for your mail and your interest in my proposal.
How are you today? Hope all is well ok with you over there.
I believed that you do understand my explanation regarding
this transaction. I have investigated all the areas
regarding this deal and perfected every internal
arrangement to see that the deal will
Be a very successfully. Due to my position in the Bank I
don?t want to disclose this transaction with anybody here
in South Africa.

Before proceeding, I would like to re-assure you of the
risk-free of this transaction, this transaction have been
carefully drafted in such a way that it will not harm both
of us in any way or destroy our personality during and
after. All I need from you is 100% assurance that you will
not disappoint us after receiving the money into your bank
account.

This money does not originate from any form of Drug or
Terrorist activities and it will not attract such or any
questions from any authority when transferred into your
Bank account, all the documents will be arranged perfectly
by us down here as already
been worked it out already.

Regarding to the details of the transaction, I could only
details you what will be the procedure on the processing of
the transaction upon confirming the following below
information from you. You are advice to answer the
under-listed details to me immediately you receive this
message.

(1) Your full name and address

(2) Your Company's name, address and your position if any

(3) Your direct telephone and fax numbers

(4) Your Country of Origin.

(5) Your Age, status

(6) Investments ideas you will recommend for the funds.

As soon as I receive the above details from you I will
forward to you the full procedure of the transaction and
every other thing that is involved including the sharing
terms. Call me upon receipt of this mail.

I am waiting for your urgent response.

Best regards


Dr. Phil Wright

At this point i knew it was deffinatly a scam because he started asking for my bank details and phone number etc. I then asked him for a name of ther person who gave him my email addres and he replyed with this.

Email 4:

Dear Sir,

I do not wish to waste your time or my own time, if you are
not comfortable in working with me kindly let me know so
that i can look for another person,

You may be thinking that what i related to you may be a
kind of joke, it is not and i will not be a something you
regret.

Phill

I then told him to get fucked and to learn to scam better.

Has this ever happened to anyone else? I bet that probably would of fooled me like 2 years ago when i 1st got my computer. Its shocking to know theres guys like this doing shit like this all the time...

Transneft fee scam from Russian Oil Sellers

To all buyers of Russian Oil Products:

Do not pay any upfront Transneft fee to Russian Sellers under no circumstances.

There is a well Russian organized crime network made of many so called Russian sellers or seller's mandates, most advertising on Alibaba.com.

Their contracts usually include Cell phone as seller's phone, fake bank account, fake SWIFT code, fake email addresses, fake bank officer who is usually an individual who is part of a scam.

All phone and email messages that the buyer sends to the seller's bank go to people working for the scam not to the bank.

Some of these companies are fictitious and do not even legally exist.

When they provide Transneft invoice and other documents, if you ask for verification, they will put you in contact with Transneft officials including the President of Transneft. These people are also part of the scam and no really who they claim to be.

They used to provide an invoice for payment to be wired to Alfa Bank in behalf of Transneft pipeline. They have people inside Alfa Bank to divert the money to them.

Nowadays, they use Russian Standard Bank with the money going to an individual who supposes to be a Transneft Trustee but is part of the gang.

The following companies are part of the scam: Alduke Holdings-Sibneftprom, Soyuz Corporation, Igion Oil, Icon oil & Gas, Rusneftprom, Zorin Energy Resources. Avoid individuals like Nikolai Gubin from Alduke Holdings, Andrei Shaika from Soyuz Corp and Rusneftprom.

They will object to you visiting MOscow to personally make payment to Transneft Bank then move to LC in exchange for PB/POP documents there.

No matter what you do, do not pay them upfront fees and do not accept any procedure where you have to pay large upfront sum to get the deal started.

Things to do to avoid these scams:

1.- Always contact your country's embassy in Moscow for help on screening Russian sellers.

2.- Ask your embassy to recommend a local lawyer to screen and verify any document that you receive from Moscow.

3.- Get your lawyer to invite you to Moscow to verify all documents issued by your seller and to visit your seller.

4.- Get the seller to move first by issuing PB from reputable Russian Bank with a major Foreign corresponding bank and Vessel Charter Party Agreement verifiable through your lawyer in Moscow. There is no scam without a Bank. Check the seller's bank listed on the contract. Bank uses their own mail server so if given bank email address shows a different mail server then be concerned. Call the bank. Bank officer should use a land line for their phone number not cell phone

Serious and sucessful sellers should not have any need to collect Transneft fees upfront from you once you show then preliminary proof of fund via BCL or soft probe. Only scammers want to see your money first, because their business is to collect these fees,not to sell oil. Furthermore, once you send them one payment, they tell you that they have a quota and that you need to send them more deals before they can accept your Pre-advice LC or issue PB. Even if you ask them to sign a promisory note to return the money in case of non-performance, they will do it because you have no way of collecting that money back from them. Do not accept any document from these people unless you have a way of verifying it independently. They are master forgeurs for all sort of refinery and government documents. Happy Trading !!!

Please don't be afraid to share your scam stories !!! Scammers use the same scheme over and over because their victims do not speak out

Your story will help weeding out scammers from the business. It is not just about the money, it is about detecting these scams soon enough to avoid wasting time.

Gotit Communication Company

Don't buy any products from Gotit Communication Company. They are just a cheaters. Specially Mr Smith Schoals. He gave us this number of the account:

Bank name: ABBEY NATIONAL BANK
Account name: DUYILEMI OLUYEMISI
Account number: 04932831
Sort code: 09-01-27
Bank address: Barking,Essex, London,UK.

We send him $1000 and he told us about some problems with reiciving money from this account and gave us another account:

Account Name: John Martins
Bank Name: Nationwide
Account No.: 42161662
Sort Code: 074456

He told us to make another deposit. We refuse paying and he told that he wouldn't meet with us until we make another deposit. He wrote to us he will meet with us in our hotel in UK but he never show up. He said that he is going to fly to our country with the goods we ordered but only when we send on his secretary rest of the money while he will be traveling to our country. After this payment he said he will give us the time when he will be arriving to the Airport. He refuse showing us goods before payment.

Natural Sound Enterprise Co Ltd (http://www.nsecom.net )

I’ve make a deal with Natural Sound Enterprise Co Ltd (http://www.nsecom.net ) for buying mp3 player.
Sent money 1228.50$ and confirmed order at 1st February 2007, regarding proforma invoice 30th January 2007.

Because new year holiday , Natural Sound Enterprise Co Ltd have informed us that they will be closed.
After holiday, at 26th February, they have sent email that they haven’t received our transfer.

After informing them that our bank have confirmation, they have accepted that they have received 1187$, but they break our agreement at proforma invoice. They would to change unit price and shipment rate. They have offered to me to send more money or cancel order / send back money.

At 28th February i’ve canceled my order and ask them to send money back. During conversation i was suspicious about their attitude, i have said that i’ll open fraud investigation , contact to consulate, Their answer is ‘ in 2-3 days we send back money’

Today is 7th march still no refund , either a document approving swift have been made.
i’ve opened fraud investigation against this company, i’ve contacted to Istanbul and Ankara China Consulates also Turkish Pekin embassy for complain.

These Scammers can’t live with you

Sophie sales6@nsecom.net
Jessie jessie@nsecom.net
mily@nsecom.net
Tel.:+86-755-29927716 Fax.:+86-755-29927143
Tel: (86 755) 29927125 / (86 755) 29927060
Fax: (86 755) 83665326 / (86 755) 29927143

E S - SON KB SCAMMERS. Credit Cards SCAMMERS.

WARNING : to all buyers this suppose to be a trusted co is a scammer.

Company Name: E S - SON KB
Country/Territory: Sweden
Address: Nygatan 51, Skelleftea, Skelleftea, Sweden
Products/Services We Offer: Computer, laptop, mobile
Business Type: Trading Company
Legal Representative/CEO: Hans Goran Karlstedt
Phone: 46-90695763-7
http://www.prezenter.se

I ordered an item from there website because they take credit card payments instead sending western union and i used a credit card with low limit i use just in case i'm suspicious of a co because there prices was too good to be true....If they charged the right amount they would have got away with it then i had to deal with the credit card co(amount was $410) but they got greedy and tried to charge from 1200 to 2500 from 3 different countries including Sweden and England,i got a call from the credit card co to check if authorized these charges,i canceled the card right then so i got lucky....
If any of you sent western union or any method of payments beside credit card kiss your money goodbye,this co just a front to get your credit card information only don't be taken in by all the award and there trusted seller logo and there elaborate website...ITS ALL FAKE

www.buy-168.com

Hi i have bought some items of a web site called www.buy-168.com i sent them there money through western union and they received it. Now they are saying i need to send an extra $298 dollars because it is kept by maritime customs?
I asked them if they are registered with Chinese government authorities they said yes i asked them for the number and they sent me this -Beijing No. 06063905 ICP equipment .
I was wondering if what they are saying is true and are they an actual company or scammers?

I'm sorry to tell you that you have been scammed by them in China. So many similar cases occurred before. Take care and do not pay them before verification of them in China !

Xi ’an Yu Xin Import & Export Co., Ltd

Company name: Xi ’an Yu Xin Import & Export Co., Ltd
Address: Shaanxi, China.
Tel: +86-029-87800186
Fax: +86-029-62968266
e-mail: quinquozhang@yahoo.com.cn
contact person: Guoqin Zhang

Mr. GUOQIN ZHANG of the above company invited us to meet them in Сhina to sign a contract face to face with their CEO. When we hesitated to give the 2,000 US $ they didn’t meet my General Manager and my Marketing Director who travelled all along from Bangkok, Thailand to China. My 2 superiors spent 2 days and 2 nights in the hotel booked by GUOQIN ZHANG but they met nobody and there was no company seen. (I want to make it clear that we shouldered all the expenses including the booked of the hotel made by the person above).

Beware of these scammers who pretended to be a buyer. They are still advertising in alibaba.com!!!!

Zhengzhou Century Union Ocean Mechanical Equipment Import&Export Co.,Ltd

Zhengzhou Century Union Ocean Mechanical Equipment Import&Export Co.,Ltd

Contact person: Qinguoqing
E-mail: zzsjly1001@163.com
E-mail: zzsjly1001@yahoo.com.cn
Tel: +86-371-63690236
Fax: +86-371-67028382
Mobile:+86-13633848015
Translater/Assistant:+86-13271567409
website: http://www.zzsjly.com/about.htm
Address: No.72 Nong Ye Road, JinShui District, Zhengzhou, China

They place a high quantity of machinery orders to us and would like us go to China to sign a Purchase Contract. However, we couldnt find their details by internet, there are no other websites link to them, only one page of website.

Moreover, our sourcer in China try to give them a call, she just inform us they are trader and we couldnt check the registered number, some sort like 114...or something



DON'T WORK WITH THEM, THEY ARE SCAMMERS!

Nike shoe companies

I noticed a lot of these Nike shoe companies popping up everywhere and for some reason they all have Gold Supplier status now. I find this weird that Alibaba would honor these companies Gold Supplier status when they are totally selling fake Nike shoes. to the public. I have checked these companies out, not all but alot of them and they will admit they are copy shoes.

And what a surprise, last year you could not find an XBOX 360 on Alibaba anywhere unless it was UK or NIGERIA fraud/scammers, but this year with all these Nike shoe companies and their Gold Supplier status, they are all offering the PlayStation 3's even though Sony Playstation is in a massive global shortage. I understand Japanese versions are still around in bundles, but through contacting some of these shoe companies who say they sell the system, they say they have the US Version!

I asked them how much to ship 1 unit for sample to North America, they reply with, it is included in the price. Hrmmm.... I then ask, "Ok, well how much to ship to the UK?", again they say its included in the price.

This does not make sense. Also they have pictures on their Alibaba Gold page with Playstation 3 Units of all types, even prototype units and colors that are not even out yet or may never come out. Some of the pictures also have a website address printed across the graphic for a totally different website.

I decided to type in one of these websites that i saw on the graphic picture and was taken to yet another Nike Shoe company from Putian which was selling just shoes and popular branded clothing( i am sure they were all fakes), but i did not see the Ps3 anywhere on the website.

Basically, in MY OPINION. Do not deal with the following...

1. Putian Shoe companies - they will scam you or sell you copies or fakes PERIOD.

2. Refurbished or Grade A+ phones - they are not worth it. Most companies buy lots of used phones and sort through them taking the ones that look best and sell them as Grade A+ or Refurbished. Really once they have your money, they dont care and you are stuck with them.


So don't buy from Scammers.

Very scared for my money

I have probably invested in over 100,00k over the last year in China and Hong Kong. I am very confident in Hong Kong suppliers, although i notice alot of Chinese Companies naming their companies with Hong Kong in the title when they are really located in Mainland China.

When it comes to mainlain China, i am very scared for my money when dealing with Guangzhou, Putian and some Shenzhen companies. They sell a lot of fake products and some do admit in their price lists that they are copies, but some do not unless you ask them.

Now just because i mention these cities, does not mean you should over look them. Check out their licenses through the proper sources, or just use the search engines to find out if anyone else has had a problem with the company in the past.

Sometimes in GOOGLE, i type the company name and then the word fraud or scam after it and you would be surprised what comes up. Any time someone on the net has talked about this company possibly being a fraud, it should come up in Google.

I have also noticed for example on Ebay, a lot of Chinese companies or so-called companies sending emails to Ebay sellers, asking them to check their website. A lot of the times they use websites like www.163.com which i think is a non trackable web host but i could be wrong. The fact that these people are stealing accounts on Ebay and posting these websites to sellers, raises my suspicion about some Chinese sellers. Once you see enough of them, you can spot them very quickly.

On Ebay i noticed mobile phone sellers from China, selling supposedly brand new Motorola V3. They were selling them well below normal costs and were selling like 20 a day. I checked their feedback and it was terrible. They would sell 20 phones and have like 5-10 negative feedbacks per day. I am sure they are shut down now.


So please AVOID SCAMMERS.